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Executive SummaryWayne Rowland claims to have discovered the cure for Multiple Sclerosis. He has researched "strange" water and he has a "program" or "project" that he claims are beneficial to treat diabetics, cancer patients and others. He has used the media, such as CHOK, and CFPL in London to spread misinformation and lies about the efficacy of his "program". He has used the media, such as CHOK, and CFPL in London to spread misinformation and lies about the efficacy of his "program".The purpose of this complaint is to send a message to the media, and to Provincial and Federal legislators that this kind of medical quack and his friends in the media have gone too far. Canadian and Ontario laws have obviously not done enough to protect the public from flim-flam operators. The College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario have thus far ignored many complaints against those who practice medicine without a license. Wayne Rowland appears to be a saviour, a miracle maker, he can put 130,000 volts of kinetic electricity into a flask of water and turn it into "silver water". It can cure the world of all disease. An intestinal cleanse will get rid of the "cheese" that holds the parasitic infestation that plagues the world. This is not funny, this is what Wayne Rowland believes, and this is what CHOK and other stations have broadcast, unedited, unchallenged, and unsupported by evidence. The media is a false messenger, and Wayne Rowland is just a small part of it. 
This is an exact transcript of the show. The spelling of the names may not be exact, and in some cases our best guess as to what was actually said is used. Some of the basic scientific words were incredibly mispronounced. All of the information was wrong. The area code of the radio station is 519. If you want to call them directly or respond via e-mail, they have their own web site.
Subject: Strange Silver Water Announcer: 1070 CHOK - Your station for information presents Talkback with your host Sue Storr. Sarnia-Lambton's only community affairs call-in program. Talkback gives you the opportunity to comment on issues that matter the most to you. Your opinions and comments are always welcome. At 464-1117, it's Talkback, on CHOK, and on the internet at www.chok.com. Courtesy of XCELCO and RealAudio. Now your host of Talkback, Sue Storr. SS: Hello, and welcome to this edition of Talkback. On this, what day is it, Tuesday morning? A lot of folks request, about a month or, I guess we spoke with Wayne Rowland, and he was talking to us about silver water. And since that time we've had a number of calls in asking about more information about silver water, what is it, where do you find it, could we bring him back in to talk about it........So he's back in town for a little bit, and he made some time to come in and chat with us again......
He also brought along a couple of people, Denise Ireland from Chatham, and John Palazari (not sure of spelling). O.K. so we'll chat with those folks as well, and again if you have questions 464-1117, is the number to call......... Wayne we're back, maybe you could start at the beginning again, just a little bit to explain silver water. Is it water with silver in it? What is it all about, and what's the big curiosity about it? WR: Well, actually the water is, huh, not water with any particular mineral in it. It's got a whole combination of minerals in it, and we have learned to uh....The minerals are caught up in the meniscus of the water, when the water gets very clean, and as a result of that we use lightening, about a 130,000 kinetic volts of electrical power, and we create a bolt of lightening. What we do is control the collapse of the lightening to match the frequency the notes of B-flat on a piano, and those frequencies seem to balance the human body. If you ever listen to music and it's in the key of B-flat you sort of get a little goose-bumps and you feel real good. Well those are the frequencies we use. It appears that, uh, disease organisms, if they come in contact with that frequency, they go into what appears to be a trance and they die. And that's staph, E. coli, pseudomonas poisoning and that sort of thing. And basically what we've done, is we have created a program with proper enzymes. This water and deworming and when we did all of those things, disease, in general, started to melt away. And as a result I have some folks that came with me today that started this program, they were pretty skeptical when they first met me, but they wanted to try it. Umm, John here, he's only been on the project five weeks, and he's got a little story to tell about himself. His diabetic problem was 120 units-a-day, which is pretty serious. It's a lot of insulin to be using. I didn't know if I can help him or not, but he's down to somewhere between 10 and 25 units a day and he's only been on the project five weeks. And inside I believe another month and a half, he will be finished with his diabetes. SS: Hold your story, we'll keep them waiting. And the you brought Denise WR: Right. Yes, she has had breast cancer for many years. They wanted to remove her breasts and do all these operations. And very strangely, she ran into little problems that prevented the operations from happening. And she was coming up to it when she met me. She now has relief and 40-50% of her breast tumours are now gone and the balance of them should be gone in another 2 months. SS: Why is the medical community saying "Wayne we want to use this in North America?" WR: I have no idea, and I've been struggling with this myself for some time. But, here's the position, and this is pretty simple. This disease invaded your body in some mysterious way. I don't have a cure for disease at all. All I do is I work on the premise that, look cheese, as an example, is 11 micron in size. To break it down to 4 and 2 in order to use it, the sulfuric acid in the stomach is only bringing it down to 6. Some of it brings it down to 2-3, but only about 10% of it. The rest slathers up the inside of your small intestine, and after years of this nonsense, and the lack of enzymes and minerals in our food this day, you wind up with your intestine just all bogged up with stuff, which gives a home for parasites to hide in, and those parasites basically are creating all of these problems. That's my interpretation of it. That's also some doctors' interpretation of it. And so, what I decide to do was to do this, to get rid of my own cancer, and it worked. And ever since then I've been promoting the idea of it, and now I don't, I no longer own the company. I've sold out. I no longer own anything. I'm retired, and I don't charge Cathy any money to come here for Petrolia Magnetics. I don't make any money at all. I don't charge her. I don't these people. I don't charge anybody, anything. I'm gonna spend a year and a half roaming around as a freedom of speech issue to say look, "these are the health food stores you go to, this is the stuff you buy, and it isn't all stuff that I invented. " There's some wonderful stuff in health food stores and it just seems that disease, like MS, as an example, if you're not in a wheelchair, and you clean all the indigested protein values up in your bowel, and you use colloidal minerals from the N.O.W. company....Now they don't know who I am, and they don't know I'm promoting their stuff. I just did the research on their stuff and found out it was incredibly valid. So if you use this "strange" water that I invented, their N.O.W. project and a de-worming. MS, we have a 100% success rate in getting rid of it!!! We've never had a failure, EVER,............ and there it is!!! So now, I've got a couple of MS individuals I've just met. I've told them about the project. They've gone to these strange health food stores to pick up their stuff, and it's only a little while, and already one of them knows John here, and she's telling him, you know, she's starting to feel real good. SS: Do you think our attitudes have changed? We see more health food stores popping up everywhere we go. People are trying to get back to the healthy lifestyle that maybe great grand parents enjoyed. You mentioned there's not as many minerals and vitamins in our food today than there used to be. WR: That's correct SS: Are people more accepting of something like this because our attitudes are changing, we know more about it? WR: No, I think what's been happening, people have been taking chemotherapy for years, and it's nothing more than mustard gas poisoning from the First World War. And that's what they're injecting into people. And people are dying from gangrene and pneumonia. And when you have cancer for ten years and they've been injecting chemotherapy into you and you die, they never say you've died from cancer. They say you died from pneumonia on your death certificate. And you know people have finally tweaking to that. They are saying WOW. You know, these doctors, what are they doing. They're pumping chemotherapy into everybody. You go to them for a headache, and my goodness gracious, they're giving me drugs. They are actually giving me prescriptions for migraine headaches. And I have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that migraine headaches are cause by ammonia in the blood which makes the blood vessels swell. Ammonia is worm urine. So, there's arginine and orthinine, which is an amino acid. It's water soluble. You take three pills per hundred-weight and in 12 minutes, the worst migraine headache in the world is gone. I just did a health food store last night to give a little talk, and a gentleman heard me, and he just didn't believe it. He got himself in the United States, he got himself across the border to get some arginine and orthinine for himself. He gave it to his sister who has 12 years of migraine headaches. Gave it to her to see if I was right, and in 12 minutes a headache that was sending her back to the hospital was over. SS: Let's take a break when we come back we'll bring Denise and John into the conversation. You're listening to Talkback on CHOK. .....We'll hear what they have to say from the next county over. Denise, did I hear Wayne say that you had breast cancer? DI: Yes SS: You had breast cancer. DI: Yes, it was about four and a half years ago, that I was diagnosed with cancer. SS: Is it gone? DI: Well, in January 1996, a lumpectomy was performed, and along with 7 lymph nodes. Four of those lymph nodes were filled with cancer. They suggested that the cancer may have spread to other areas. Also, when the surgeon removed the tumours he found not one tumour, but two. And then um, he said the rest of the tissue looked very healthy. So, they strongly recommended that a mastectomy be performed as soon as possible, rather than go ahead with the radiation that had been planned. And, then I was not prepared to deal with this, so everything had happened so quickly. SS: Usually is does with breast cancer. Everybody that I talked to, everything is just BANG-BANG. DI: And then um, so anyway. Uh, I'd been raised in a medical family as well, and I had knowledge of alternative therapy. And I really needed time to think about it. So, over the past four years I've tried to see if anything happened, I tried various therapies. And, uh, some dedication for a period of time. You know, not always. My immune system has beenworking hard at preventing it from spreading. And, uh, but the large hard mass in my breast has been gradually increasing in size rather, you know? But, it hasn't spread. And then two months ago I met Rowland, about two months ago....he suggested that I start a program with enzymes and silver water and parasite cleanse. And uh, I've tried part of these programs before but not this particular programs. So, to date I've followed his advise, and uh the last few weeks the hard mass in my breast has decreased about 40-50%. And uh, if this progress continues, I expect to have another mammogram in about two or three months that will read NO TUMOURS PRESENT. SS: Have you seen your doctor over these two months? DI: Yes. SS: What's he saying to you? DI: Uh, because of the situations that I've been through in the past year, we had discussed it. A couple of months ago he did say that uh, you know right now my body is fighting it. You know my immune system is up, and it's fighting it, so we'll leave it sit for a bit. SS: Did you tell him what you were doing? DI: No, I haven't talked to him since I have started to talk to him. SS: How do you feel? DI: Actually, pretty good. Uh, it's not all, it's not all good. When you, you know when the masses is, you know, decreasing and that, you still have the problem with pain, and it goes from itchey to pain and you say hey it's smaller......It's been an experience. SS: And, you've had no chemo and no radiation? DI: No, no. I haven't. It's been circumstances, you know it's turned out that way, that it's good. SS: We'll come back to Denise and also hear from John. But, we want to take a phone call 464-1117, if you would like to talkback this morning. Hi - you're on the air
Heinz: Good morning. SS: Hello Heinz: Sue, I'm Heinz SS: Hi, Heinz Heinz: I have a question if it works on cholesterol for reduction as well. SS: Chol....cholesterol Heinz: Yeah WR: Well, enzymes have a habit of breaking all the cholesterol down in a fashion that's what drip chelation is. If the cholesterol is really serious you should see a professional and have a very serious look at drip chelation. The doctors that are involved in it, they really know what to add to it, so that when you start stripping the body of certain nutrient values, they know how to balance you, and keep you healthy. But, if your chelation is needed and it's really bad, I would suggest drip chelation. And to stay really healthy you can take enzymes. The one thing that's really important is the enzymes don't trigger properly if there's not a monatomic colloidal minerals with them. So, I tell people if they are going to go to their health food store somewhere and get enzymes, they need to make sure they're water soluble plant enzymes. And you need to take 10 of them a day or so. And you need colloidal minerals, and there's a company called the N.O.W. company that actually produces a very good colloidal mineral. And basically you add those things together. I worked with uh folks to put a good enzyme grouping together. Uh, Cathy at Petrolia Magnetics here in Petrolia basically has that enzyme. And, I sold the company to some folks and they're still doing the high quality, and there's colloidal minerals in with the enzymes, and they're about half-price. Heinz: Well I'm not kinda positive if I do have excess of a, err..... SS: You're not sure if it's high? Heinz: No, the only problem I have is ED, and I'm just wondering, since I've read the book from Dr. Saul, I'm kinda concerned to go into some kind of nutritional diet, you know? WR: You have, you know it's time to melt down all the indigested cheese in the body, and if you've been eating cheese, and you've been eating this way for some time, it's pretty much a sure thing that you've got undigested values in your small intestine. And, it don't, it takes enzymes to get that out. And you can't brush it out with fibre and stuff, although it does help, and a good diet always helps, and uh to add enymes to a proper diet just starts breaking all that mass down. Uh, I also have come up with a celery flush that I've given to Cathy. I got it out of an 1868 medical book. And it's kind of a time-honoured remedy for flushing the small intestine. And that particular remedy seems to be working really well when you use these enzymes and water with the program. And it just starts flushing all this stuff out of your bowel, and you actually turn the undigested protein into soap. So, the toilet fills up with bubbles. And you can actually see yourself breaking down the undigested protein values in your bowel. And you know, I think you know it would be wise to phone Cathy and see what she has to say, and she can probably help you. Heinz: You wouldn't have the number from her? SS: Oh, sure, 882-1922 Heinz: And thanks, and oh.....this celery flush, I can produce it myself, or....? SS: No WR: Yes SS: Yup WR: yes SS: O.K.? Heinz: O.K. SS: Allright? SS: We're on the air Female Caller: Good morning SS: Hello Female Caller: Uhm, my daughter and I have been diagnosed with ADD. Uhm if this works great on some of them, will it work on on this? SS: Attention deficit disorder WR: Och, absolutely. I mean absolutely. Do you know that yesterday I heard that a young person, a boy had been Ritalin for attention deficit disorder since he was four, and he turned fourteen and had a heart attack and dropped dead. Female Caller: That was a boy, I heard that, too. My daughter was on Ritalin and she went to Dexedrine. WR: Right, well drugs don't make the grade. If you deworm, if you do this project that I've designed over 22 years, that's how long I've been designing this program. And if you do it, I swear to you, your attention deficit disorder problems are over. Female caller: O.K., because I was just diagnosed in my early 30s. WR: Right Female caller: He was diagnosed with it about three or four. You can see him just running around the office, and swinging on the chair, no questions or nothing to her. WR: Yeah, you know unraveling the puzzle of disease is so really simple if you just have the right pieces. It's just the way it is. SS: O.K., so give Cathy a call and she can give you more information on that Female caller: Her number is 882-1922, right? SS: That's right.....allright let's take a break, stay on the line, stay with us, we'll get to your question, and we'll also hear from John Palzari on silver water on Talkback on CHOK. SS: John Palazari, Wayne of course mentioned you off the top of the program. You went to see him, what was the matter? JP: About 14 years ago I was comin' home from Toronto and I got awful thirsty, and I started drinkin' at McDonald's, and the next thing I know I'm at a Harvey's having another drink. So, when I got home I figured somethind was wrong, do I went to the doctor. Boom, I was in the hospital with a blood count of over 22. DIABETES. And they put me on the needle. So, ever since then I've been taking two needles in the morning and two needles before supper. Thirty units of Humulin-N and now thirty units of Humalog, which is a quick acting insulin. I heard Wayne on the program over a month ago. SS: This program? JP: Yes. I called him and we arranged an appointment and my wife went down with me. Ah, he put me on his program, and uh I started to notice my insulin going down, down, down. Where I was taking combined 120 units a day, I am now down to 20-30 maybe units. SS: From a 120 to 20-30? JP: Yes, and I have not changed my diet, like he advised me to. I like my cakes and cookies, and breads and what have you. And I just went on his program. SS: Have you seen your doctor? JP: Ah, NO. I'm not about to make an appointment until I can say, "hey look at me", you know. I'm feeling good about it. SS: Are you surprised? JP: Very much so. SS: Were you a skeptic? JP: Ah, no. I have tried alternative medicines. I went to acupunturists and they said well if you follow this diet and everything else, and I was spending considerable amount of money through the week with acupuncture. I wasn't really seeing a result, like I see here. I feel good. I've got lots of energy. I've lost 16 pounds to date, over a month on this program. And I can show you my belt to prove it. Hee hee hee. SS: That's o.k., hold on to your belt there. Allright, let's go back to the phones. John, I guess that diabetes is something that people, when they realize that they have the disease, also know that they have to keep using the needles and medication... Now you're looking at not doing it anymore? Are you down that many units? JP: Seriously, I am. Uh, I don't watch what I eat. My sugar levels have remained the same, above the normal level, which is 7. I'm hittin' 8 and 9. Uh, and the nice thing is that some days I didn't take a needle, and now I'm taking 10 units of each. Last night, before I went to bed, I had a nice quarter-piece of raisin pie. You know, if that's goin' to a diabetic, that's gonna kill'm. Uh, this morning I knew it would be up there, so I checked my blood and it was up, so I took 10 units, and I'm sure right now it's down. I have not gone the other way, since I reduced my insulin, where I used to go outside and do a little bit of work and I'd start shakin' right away, and have to come in and have some sugar to get me back to normal. WR: How many years have you been a diabetic? JP: About 14, 12-14 in that area, yup. WR: Wow! SS: ...Let's try to get one more call in here. Hello you're on the air. Man: Hi SS: Hi Man: I was curious, I thought I heard you say on your program, that you had a program set up to look at Peyronie's disease? SS: Which disease, sir? Man: Peyronie's. WR: Hirone's? Never heard of it. What's Hirone's disease? Man: Well, it's in the male genitals. WR: Well, I see I have no experience whatsoever. I'm sorry Man: Allright, thank you. WR: Bye. SS: Well, that's one I'm sure you're gonna look up.. WR: Well, I tell you, I'm gonna look for that one. SS: Allright, so if people want to hear more tonight, they can come out to Petrolia Magnetic. Remember folks, they've moved their location, and they're now at 4492 Progress Dr. And, you'll be there for about 2 hours talking to them about this? WR: Yes, tonite at 7. SS: And everything from cancers, we've heard from Denise, to MS, to diabetics.. WR: Attention deficit, all migraine headaches folks. ALL OF THEM. A little arginine and orthinine to neutralize the worm urine because ammonia makes the blood vessels in the brain swell. That gives you the headache. You neutralize it with amino acid and then you deworm. No migraine headaches again. SS: Thanks Wayne for coming back. WR: You're welcome SS: If you want to give Cathy a call, just give her an hour to get back to Petrolia. 882-1922.
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